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The video tells the story of Kev Coleman, a wheelchair-using grad student at Northern Illinois University, showcasing how making theater tech accessible through innovative solutions benefits everyone while challenging traditional assumptions about disabilities in the entertainment industry.
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Accessibility in theater and entertainment technology
NIU's adaptations for wheelchair accessibility
Innovation in lighting control systems
Importance of including disabled voices in accessibility discussions
Breaking barriers in technical theater roles
Universal design benefits for all users
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Explore topic 1
Here are the key points about accessibility in theater and entertainment technology:
Core Philosophy: Accessibility drives innovation and creates better products for everyone. Features like curb cuts, keyboards, and automatic doors started as accessibility solutions but now benefit all users.
Industry Challenges: Traditional beliefs often question why disabled individuals would want certain technical roles (like a color-blind lighting designer or wheelchair-using shop tech), creating self-fulfilling barriers.
Design Approach: When accessibility is considered proactively at the start of projects rather than as an afterthought, it leads to better solutions and easier future adaptations.
Community Focus: The theater industry values diversity and storytelling from different perspectives, making it stronger through inclusive practices.
Innovation Principle: Following the motto "nothing about us without us" - involving disabled people directly in conversations about accessibility solutions.
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1:09 - 1:12
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If you use a wheelchair, why would you wanna be a shop tech?
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If you use a wheelchair, why would you wanna be a shop tech?
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So being able to put all of my stuff in, um, as close to me as possible so that way I'm not reaching across the table because my reach is limited due to the fact that I am in the wheelchair that I'm in, but also I'm I'm secured in so if I go over over something or if I go down the steep hill, I'm not falling out. Um, and so, yeah, I guess, for for me, the touch screens have been a huge lifesaver as part of my programming.
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Um, and as I go forward, I am am still manipulating how do I want to use the touch screens slash all of the different options that I have to configure out.
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I can't just sidestep over these, you know, as technology advances, maybe, yes, I will someday get to use advances, maybe, yes, I will someday get to use tech uh, you know, a wheelchair that actually can go side to side, but that is not in the case at current.
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We've seen scenery and prop artists build ramps for wheelchairs.
The transcript shows mentions of wheelchairs in context of:
Challenging stereotypes about career limitations
Technical adaptations and accessibility solutions
Physical modifications to theater spaces
Future technological possibilities
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"Show how accessibility drives innovation in theater tech"
"Create a story about breaking barriers in entertainment industry"
"Show how NIU adapted their theater program for accessibility"
"Cut together key points about inclusive design benefits"
"Make an inspirational edit about pursuing your passion despite obstacles"
"Show the journey of implementing touch screen solutions"
"Create a piece about the 'Nothing About Us Without Us' philosophy"
"Focus on how adaptive technology shapes the future of theater"
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explore topic 1, include how accessibility drives innovation in general
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0:02 - 0:31
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Accessibility is innovation. When we design products with accessibility as a priority, we design products that become better, more convenient, and more efficient for everyone. A lot of accessible design might be driven by disability access, but if you've ever appreciated curb cuts or computer keyboards, speech to text, smart home technology, automatic doors, you've benefited from accessible design.
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It's our job, the industry's job, to create the tools so that anyone out there can try and discover and create by removing the obstacles that we have unintentionally built into our systems and by developing accommodations we may not have considered in the past.
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Well, once I first started working with Kev, um, just like I do with anybody who's differently abled, um, I rely on my engineering background to assess the person and their ability to interface with the equipment and the spaces that they need to interface with so that I can connect their brain, which is the important part, with their equipment and their surroundings.
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More and more people are becoming involved and supportive of accessibility initiatives. Instead of questioning if accessibility will happen at all, our teams are questioning, how can we make it happen?
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topic 7
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4:23 - 5:56
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In having these conversations, ETC and and the people at ETC have repeatedly come back to this phrase, nothing about us without us. It's a phrase we we first heard from disability advocates in our industry and we decided we really needed to take that seriously. So in order to do that, we need to start showing that ETC is ready to have these conversations. We know there's a lot of work to be done and we're not gonna do everything perfect right off the bat, but we as an industry need to show that we want feedback. And when we do get it, we're welcoming it. We wanna start that initial dialogue. If somebody needs support, we need them to feel comfortable and safe coming to us and asking for it. We need to demonstrate that when you tell us what we can do better, we're ready to listen. Recently, ETC has published a diversity, equity, and inclusion statement that includes accessibility as a focus, and this work is part of that initiative. I've been ETC's UX designer for a number of years now, and I can tell you firsthand progress is being made. The difference between the conversations I was having 5 years ago and the conversations I'm having now today, it's it's like night and day. More and more people are becoming involved and supportive of accessibility initiatives. Instead of questioning if accessibility will happen at all, our teams are questioning, how can we make it happen?
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all quotes mentioning Kev thinking about school, going to school, accepted to school, grad school, interested in program, teacher, professor
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16:19 - 16:39
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Before Kev was really thinking about lighting design grad school, I got a message from one of his former professors asking if he could succeed in a program like this, if he could succeed in, um, in the entertainment industry as a lighting designer. Uh, Kev had already been accepted into the, uh, education program here at NIU, and so I reached out to him.
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I think that one of the things that one of the things that kept Kev from applying for a position in the program that he was actually interested in was that he'd been told no his whole life. And there's really no reason in a in a field like lighting design where you're basically a computer programmer that his chair or his other, um, limitations, for lack of a better word, there's no reason that any of that should affect the work that he can do on stage. And so it seemed to to me to be a no brainer. I mean, he had the passion for it. He was really, really excited about it. It was obviously a difficult decision for him to make, um, because the education seemed like the much the much safer path in it, you know, for his own education.
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I kinda came in here with an open expectation. I don't know if I really had any idea because this wasn't what I intended. This wasn't my original plan until, uh, as Brandon mentioned, a previous student that or a previous grad student from multiple years ago, um, literally said to me on the stage of our of our of my, not our, of my undergraduate, said, can you see that light up there? And I said, well, of course. He said, can you tell someone to focus that on you? I said, well, yes. He said, great. You can be a lighting designer.
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So, um, I was, like, well, this seems like fun, but I I have a degree in or or a main focus in stage management directing. I know nothing of what I'm doing as a designer. So understanding that there was gonna be, you know, remedial, if I can say the word correctly, uh, you know, learning that has had to happen, um, and then understanding the artistic part of this, uh, was was, you know, I knew there's gonna be a huge learning curve, but I I was excited to take that on and I think I handled it pretty well.
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Here are the key challenges Kev has faced:
Physical Challenges:
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30:46 - 31:15
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So being able to put all of my stuff in, um, as close to me as possible so that way I'm not reaching across the table because my reach is limited due to the fact that I am in the wheelchair that I'm in, but also I'm I'm secured in so if I go over over something or if I go down the steep hill, I'm not falling out.
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35:05 - 35:23
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One of the things that became really clear the first time we sat in front of a light board and not something that I had ever paid attention to is that I use both of my hands all the time at the lightboard and so I'm always typing with my left hand. I'm always using the mouse with my right hand and that's just not an option for Kev.
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20:36 - 20:47
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When Kev started, he was the only graduate student in my program, and it became immediately obvious that my traditional light rendering style wasn't gonna work for him because he just it just wasn't gonna work.
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52:51 - 53:06
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As an example, there was a disabled parking space on our south side of the building, but that parking space was not near any doors that allowed a person in a wheelchair to easily access the building.
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17:30 - 17:42
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I think that one of the things that one of the things that kept Kev from applying for a position in the program that he was actually interested in was that he'd been told no his whole life.
Daily Life Challenges:
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1:07:47 - 1:08:00
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He said, can you come with me and fill my car up with gas? I was like, no. It's your car. You fill your car up with gas. And he said, well, I've never done it by myself. He's 24 years old, and he's never had his car filled up with gas by himself.
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what changes were made at NIU to help Kev?
Here are the key changes made at NIU to accommodate Kev:
Theater Modifications:
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19:06 - 19:50
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So we we came into this theater and Kevin told so we come into the theater and Kevin said this is really set up like the other theaters I've worked in and they would put me at a tech table up against the wall, which is just a terrible place for a lighting designer to work from. And so, you know, the the theater that I worked out of in undergrad had a center row. And so my immediate thought was maybe there's a way that we can make a center row because we always put the tech tables here. Right? Like this is this is where they go. And we know that our booth is inaccessible, but this room is accessible. And so I think it was basically one email to Tracy saying we have the student looking to come to come here and join our program. Is there a way to get a center row? And his immediate response was, yeah. We'll just pull out the chairs.
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21:09 - 21:41
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So we specifically started using digital pre visualization programs that we could use in concert with EOS on the same computer. And so, um, using programs like Augment3d and like Captur, Kev has really been able to to work on paper projects and to use those programs to he's been really successful at using those programs to pre visualize his own designs, and I can see when we get into the tech process the, um, the benefit that that has had for him.
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51:19 - 51:56
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Mhmm. Well, specific accommodations that we made for Kev, um, in the O'Connell Theatre, uh, which is a proscenium space that was built in the 19 fifties. So it really people back then weren't thinking about human beings on wheels so much. So, uh, one of the things we had to do in there was remove a row of seats to allow the width of his wheelchair to get into the position, and his his skill is a lighting designer. So we had to get the brain of a lighting designer to the middle of the theater where the lighting designer needs to sit.
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54:49 - 55:07
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So again, a very simple little tweak was simply slowing down the door closer so that when he pushes the door open it doesn't try to slam closed on him and pin him between the door and the door frame. Alright. Easy simple little fix, turning a set screw, that's all it was.
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53:16 - 53:42
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So this allowed me to say to the campus, the people on campus, and actually point to this one student and say, I have a student on wheels who needs that parking space and that door, and he needs to be able to open that door by pressing a button. So how long will it be before we get that door installed? And I think it was 3 weeks, 4 weeks, something like that.
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25:46 - 26:06
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And because he was the only grad student at the time, we were really able to cater everything to what he needed in terms of new, uh, sort of new paradigms on how projects were accomplished, on what was due, on what was expected out of the projects, as well as how we utilize our theater.
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how have accomodations for Kev been beneficial for other students?
Here's how the accommodations have benefited everyone:
In the Classroom:
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26:44 - 27:25
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Um, it it probably won't come as any surprise that not all of my students are incredibly gifted in the use of graphic media and that the, um, the quality of their renderings varies widely. And so what I do now in my undergraduate lighting design course is I have one project that requires, um, drawn light renderings, just one project, and after that we go immediately to a pre visualizer and we work immediately with the light board. And the finale, like the the final project of that class is designing a student run dance concert, and so all of the students have the ability or have the opportunity to learn on the whiteboard doing a paper project.
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28:03 - 28:40
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Incorporating the solutions that we learned through trying through accommodating Kev in the graduate courses, um, directly affected the undergraduate courses in that we can now get more projects done in 1 semester because we have everything we need already for the undergraduates to really hit the ground hit the ground running. And, um, and we have templates for dance concerts and we have pre visualize templates and we have all of our theaters built in 3 d and we have all of the digital stuff that we need to, um, to let everybody in the program sort of work in the same fashion.
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1:10:42 - 1:11:14
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Um, because one of the things about making an interface, for instance, since we're talking about Kev, making an interface that supports Kev's interfacing with the ETC equipment will make it equally as easy for people who can use all 5 fingers on their hand and their hands and their arms in a normal way. Right? And it's not just that we're making this special accommodation for Kev because all of his fingers don't work right.
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How is that going to affect a person whose fingers do work right? And I bet you're gonna find that that's gonna be embraced by the industry as well.
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The Core Philosophy:
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1:02:53 - 1:03:33
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What I'm noticing these days is that there that we're including the people who are affected by the results of these conversations in the actual conversations, which is definitely the way to go. Right? Um, using a theater comparison, it's like the director and the lighting designer and the costume designer all getting together and having a conversation about scenic design without the scenic designer in the room. Right? Let's bring the scenic designer in the room. So let's bring the people who are going to benefit from the results of these conversations. Let's get them in the conversations, find out what they need, what they want, how we can best accommodate them.
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4:23 - 5:00
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The Impact:
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5:34 - 5:56
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The difference between the conversations I was having 5 years ago and the conversations I'm having now today, it's it's like night and day. More and more people are becoming involved and supportive of accessibility initiatives. Instead of questioning if accessibility will happen at all, our teams are questioning, how can we make it happen?
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6:12 - 6:50
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I cannot describe how thankful we at ETC are for Kev's openness and transparency and willingness to work with us. As a member of the neurodivergent community, I'm familiar with the amount of vulnerability it takes to share these deeply personal aspects of yourself with others, especially in a room full of engineers and project managers and researchers. It would be disingenuous of me to not credit him for the impact he's made, but that doesn't mean we're done. It doesn't just end with 1 or 5 or 10 people. The progress is continuous.
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Here's how inclusive design benefits everyone:
Core Principle:
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0:02 - 0:31
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Breaking Misconceptions:
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0:32 - 0:55
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Accessibility, contrary to what people might think, doesn't hold us back. It helps us make better, more intuitive products for every user. To expand on that, if accessibility is considered proactively at the beginning of a project rather than at the end, it makes it easier to implement other reactive solutions in the future. Both are necessary.
Practical Example in Education:
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28:03 - 28:40
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1:10:42 - 1:11:14
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How is that going to affect a person whose fingers do work right? And I bet you're gonna find that that's gonna be embraced by the industry as well.
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3:52 - 4:09
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Our industry has always been one that's made stronger by embracing diversity. At its core, theater is about telling stories, and a story only becomes richer by including more and more voices, by seeing from different perspectives.
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delve into the future technological possibilities
Here are the key developments and future possibilities in accessibility technology:
Current Innovations Being Tested:
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6:50 - 7:32
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Part of working with Kev included exploring accessible input technologies and how they could work with our EOS consoles. We looked at a variety of game controllers and found that a lot of them integrate really well and provide a lot of flexibility to users who might want or need a different type of control. Some of the devices we tested included out of the box joysticks from Logitech and PI Engineering, as well as different keyboard layouts and track balls that some folks might already use with their desktops. We also explored some options that are specifically targeted towards accessibility. These include the Xbox adaptive controller, the PlayStation access controller, and the quad stick.
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15:54 - 16:02
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Since these were built with accessibility in mind, they provide some incredible opportunities for a wide variety of user needs.
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While all of the devices I mentioned can be used with Eos in some capacity today, one of our goals involves providing more straightforward documentation to help users get these devices up and running on their own systems.
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I would say pretty well, um, since they're here, but, uh, no. I think, you know, it through lots of conversations, emails, and visits up to the up up to ETC, um, is there's there's a lot to go, but there's going to be a lot to go for a long time. Um, and we're just starting that train. We're getting that train out of the station. And, um, at some point, who knows when, we will find solutions that can go out to out to the rest of the world.
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7:58 - 8:35
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Accessibility is innovation. When we design products with accessibility as a priority, we design products that become better, more convenient, and more efficient for everyone. A lot of accessible design might be driven by disability access, but if you've ever appreciated curb cuts, computer keyboards, speech to text, smart home technology, automatic doors, you've benefited from accessible design. Accessibility doesn't hold us back. No. It helps us make better, more intuitive products for every single user.
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put together a video of each person introducing themselves
Here's a sequence of all the speakers introducing themselves:
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1:12:56 - 1:13:13
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My name is Kev Coleman. I am a MFA lighting design student at Norvern Illinois University. I am also a freelance lighting designer myself in my in my free time.
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I am also a advocate for multiple marginalized communities, and I use a power wheelchair. Today, I am wearing tan pants and a blue shirt with white buttons on it.
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I'm Chris Krzyzewski. I am the head electrician here at the Northern Illinois University School of Theater and Dance.
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Yeah. Alright. Uh, I'm Rebecca Knitferter.
Those are all the direct self-introductions I could find in the transcript. Want me to look for additional context about any of these speakers?
yes, how they describe themselves
Here's how the speakers describe themselves and their experiences:
Kev Coleman:
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I am also a advocate for multiple marginalized communities, and I use a power wheelchair.
He further describes his journey:
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1:18:24 - 1:18:45
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But I was pushed away. And so I was pushed away out of the industry, which then made me have to really think of what did I want to do. And so I decided, really leaving high school, I was gonna be a science teacher, and clearly that has not happened. So, yeah.
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2:07:33 - 2:07:40
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I'm Chris Krzyzewski. I am the head electrician here at the Northern Illinois University School of Theater and Dance.
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49:55 - 50:24
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ETC Representative (unnamed in introductions but speaks about their role):
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5:26 - 5:33
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I've been ETC's UX designer for a number of years now, and I can tell you firsthand progress is being made.
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As a member of the neurodivergent community, I'm familiar with the amount of vulnerability it takes to share these deeply personal aspects of yourself with others, especially in a room full of engineers and project managers and researchers.
Brandon (Professor, not formally introduced but described through his work):
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Um, in terms of classroom work, you know, terms of classroom work, a lot of MFA programs focus on graphic drawing skills. Right? So it's not only text analysis. It's not only learning how to read a play, doing research, etcetera. There's a lot of drawing involved, and ours is no is no exception.
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So when Kev started, he was the only graduate program. When Kev started, he was the only graduate student in my program, and it became immediately obvious that my traditional light rendering style wasn't gonna work for him because he just it just wasn't gonna work.
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the person who made kev pump his own gas: is there an introduction for him?
Yes, this appears to be Speaker 6, who shares this story in the context of his broader role at NIU. Here's his perspective on working with Kev, including the gas station story:
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1:07:08 - 1:07:09
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Oh, yeah.
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Um, I will say that Kev's background from we lit taught all the way up to now has been, um, it's been a tough journey for him. So consequently, as he's grown up, he's gotten he's gotten well rounded in some areas, but there's a few areas where he really hasn't had that world experience. Okay?
1:07:42 - 1:08:22
You know, a couple of instances, one time I was with him in his car and he needed gas. He said, can you come with me and fill my car up with gas? I was like, no. It's your car. You fill your car up with gas. And he said, well, I've never done it by myself. He's 24 years old, and he's never had his car filled up with gas by himself. And I was like, alright. I'm gonna come with you and show you how this is done. And now from now on, you're gonna fill your own up your own car up with gas. Not that he's out accessing the pumps, but how does a disabled person integrate with a service station to get gas in their vehicle? It's some it's just something that was missed in his life thus far.
He continues to explain his broader approach:
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1:09:31 - 1:09:48
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So anyway, Kevin and I have a love love relationship. You know. I've I've helped him hopefully helped him grow as a person, and as well as grow as a, uh, as a member of the entertainment community. Right? Because both of those to me are equally as important as each other.
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Just to get him out there, get him in the world functioning as an independent human. Right? That's a large part of what I do. I leave the lighting design and all that interfacing and that artsy stuff to Brandon, and I take on more of the more of that sort of role.
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yes
Here's a comprehensive look at Speaker 6's role and relationship with Kev:
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49:55 - 50:24
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Long-term Experience:
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48:52 - 49:32
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Again, um, I've been here 25 years. And in those 25 years, we've had people of all kinds come through. We've had people who have had limited sight, limited hearing, um, inability to walk in a straight line, like there's all kinds of like, everybody's got a little bit of difference. Right? So when Kev's disabilities were brought to me, again, it was just another, okay. Well, we'll deal with it. It's it's it wasn't a huge mile milestone in my day. It was just like another okay. That's fine. We'll deal with it. It was and and that's how we like to treat all of our students regardless of what they bring to the table. Right?
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50:25 - 51:14
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Right? So with Kevin particular, okay. We've got a guy who relies on wheels. That's that was sort of my first thing. It's like, okay. We've got a guy who relies on wheels. How can we get him to the places he needs to get to with wheels? Right? So, uh, at that point, we just make some small accommodations here and there. And, again, for me, they weren't anything huge, uh, but it's something that we are blessed here at NIU with being able to do in house. So, you know, if I need a little ramp built, we can just go into our shop and build a little ramp. I don't have to go through 5 miles of red tape in order to get somebody who's qualified to build a ramp. We're perfectly qualified to build a ramp, um, to get him from a to b. Does that make sense?
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57:32 - 57:45
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Personally, my interactions with Kev have really opened my eyes to the subtle nuances to us, to to people who who don't use wheelchairs.
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The subtle differences between having to use wheels to get around and not to use wheels to get around.
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But now 20 years later, uh, and dealing with Kev who is permanently in a wheelchair, has really opened my eyes to, uh, all of the areas that we access, like, just one step.
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Working with ETC has been fabulous. Um, being a rigger myself, I have some contacts with the ETC rigging area, so I reached out some of my contacts there when, um, well, let me back up. Sorry. When I first realized that Kev was a lighting designer, Brandon and I had some conversations, and I said, you know, I've got friends at ETC because I'm a rigger, so I have friends that work at the company. Um, would you like me to reach out to them to see if they're interested in having a conversation with Kev about what they can do to make their equipment more accessible?
Building Kev's Confidence:
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1:06:14 - 1:06:59
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And he's very shy, Kev. Alright? And his confidence level was a year and a half ago, uh, kind of about here. Right? And he's like, oh, no. No. No. No. Don't do that. I they would never The words from his mouth is God is my witness, words from his mouth. ETC would never want to talk to somebody like me. And I was like, oh, you don't know ETC the way I know ETC. I said, as soon as I make this phone call or send this email, they're gonna be on you like green on grass. They're gonna jump on all over you, and they're gonna want you to come up and see them. They're gonna want to talk to you about different ways that they can help you out. I said, trust me that this is a very welcoming environment, And he did. He put his trust in me and here we are.
Want me to explore any particular aspect of his role or relationship with Kev in more detail?
can you explore Chris' relationship with Kev?
Here's a look at Chris Krzyzewski's relationship with Kev:
His Role and Initial Approach:
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2:07:33 - 2:07:40
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I'm Chris Krzyzewski. I am the head electrician here at the Northern Illinois University School of Theater and Dance.
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1:07:08 - 1:07:09
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Oh, yeah.
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Um, I will say that Kev's background from we lit taught all the way up to now has been, um, it's been a tough journey for him. So consequently, as he's grown up, he's gotten he's gotten well rounded in some areas, but there's a few areas where he really hasn't had that world experience.
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Just to get him out there, get him in the world functioning as an independent human.
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Industry Connections:
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Chris seems to have taken on both a technical mentor and life coach role, helping Kev not just with theater technology but also with building independence and professional connections. Want me to explore any particular aspect of their relationship further?
remove the quotes that were not actually said by Chris
Here are only Chris Krzyzewski's direct quotes about his relationship with Kev:
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2:07:53 - 2:08:42
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So I came to meet Kev. He was actually a student of an alum of our program who's also a close friend of mine, uh, and he recommended that Kev come down here and join our MFA lighting design program. So I actually we'd talked a little bit about Kev coming down, and we had discussed, like, we're gonna have to figure out what we're going to do to get things going. But the first time I actually met Kev was, I believe, the day we were rolling around, um, just looking at venues. We set up an appointment to, basically, myself, Tracy, and Brandon, um, to kind of walk around and go into the different venues and figure out what kinds of things we would need to make happen to assist Kev in his journey here at NIU and make sure that he could access what he needed to and do what he needed to do to be a lighting design student.
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Yeah. Absolutely. When we did that initial walk through, we found, of course, that in our O'Connell theater, which is our proscenium style house with continental seating, that there was no way that Kev was gonna be able to do lighting design from the middle of the house, which is where we typically have the lighting designer sit when we're attacking a show. So we very quickly came to the realization that we're gonna need to pull a row of seats out so that we could get him in there.
2:20:42 - 2:21:09
Um, that that does bring a yeah. So because because of some of Kev's limitations, there's some stuff that he's not able to do like other students. Like, hanging a light is kinda difficult for him because it doesn't have the the strength to get the light up while he's sitting in his chair. Um, but I remember one of the first lighting calls that Kev was at. We had some lights. We were hanging lights and he was kinda hanging out and watching because he knows the stuff.
2:22:21 - 2:22:21
Right?
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He knows the knows about the lights, knows about the material. So he was coaching some of the students through some of what they were doing because we've got these young students that some of these, you know, some of these students haven't hung or touched a light.
I apologize for the confusion earlier - some quotes were from Speaker 6, who appears to be a different person. Want me to search for more of Chris's direct quotes about working with Kev?
Speaker 6 is named Tracy Nunnaly
Here's how both staff members work with Kev in their distinct roles:
Chris Krzyzewski (Head Electrician):
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I'm Chris Krzyzewski. I am the head electrician here at the Northern Illinois University School of Theater and Dance.
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So I came to meet Kev. He was actually a student of an alum of our program who's also a close friend of mine, uh, and he recommended that Kev come down here and join our MFA lighting design program. So I actually we'd talked a little bit about Kev coming down, and we had discussed, like, we're gonna have to figure out what we're going to do to get things going.
Tracy Nunnally's Approach:
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Well, once I first started working with Kev, um, just like I do with anybody who's differently abled, um, I rely on my engineering background to assess the person and their ability to interface with the equipment and the spaces that they need to interface with so that I can connect their brain, which is the important part, with their equipment and their surroundings. Right? So with Kevin particular, okay. We've got a guy who relies on wheels. That's that was sort of my first thing. It's like, okay. We've got a guy who relies on wheels. How can we get him to the places he needs to get to with wheels?
Tracy took on a broader mentorship role:
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Tracy also became the connection to ETC:
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Want me to explore either of their roles further?
explore the role of Rebecca
Here's Rebecca's perspective and role at ETC:
On ETC's Evolution:
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Uh, so ETC as a whole, I think we it hasn't really been something we've consciously thought about. Right? We've complied with ADA in our building, and there's been other things that we've tried to make it a little bit more accessible. But I think as a whole, if we can make it ETC everywhere for everyone, I think it just it makes us even more human than we already are.
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2:30:09 - 2:30:23
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We're we're the nice guys in Wisconsin, but if we go that extra step for accessibility and make that something we think about, designing our products and designing our buildings, that really makes us even more of the nicer guys in Wisconsin.
2:30:30 - 2:30:48
So, um, ETC everywhere is one of the slogans. We know we try to we wanna see ETC products everywhere. Right? And so if we expand that and we say ETC everywhere for everyone. Right? We wanna make this for everybody. We don't wanna exclude anybody from the magic of theater.
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2:31:04 - 2:31:35
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So for other, you know, product developers or product designers in the industry, I think we can, you know, just talk to the people who want to use our equipment, um, and see what their needs are. What, you know, what accommodations do they already make for themselves? What accommodations would they want us to make? Or what problems do they have? You know, that's another thing. As a product developer, it's not our job to it's our job it's their job to identify the problem, but then it's our our job to solve it. We should not be relying on them to solve those problems.
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2:32:10 - 2:32:31
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I mean, I think they're great. I think so the the folks at NIU who are working with Kev, um, and really, um, lifting Kev up and helping him become, you know, looking at him as a lighting designer first. And, like, what accommodations can they make for him so that he can be the best lighting designer he can be. Right?
2:32:37 - 2:33:05
Um, I think they're they're going at it the right way and and fighting for Kev, um, in making accommodations, you know, moving the disabled parking spaces so that they're more they're closer to the main entrance of the building, making sure that the doors are all working, um, or the automated doors are working. So I think seeing that is awesome, um, to see a group of people supporting him so much and really, um, letting him grow.
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2:34:29 - 2:34:44
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So as nondisabled folk, um, you know, we can help support our disabled coworkers and, um, fellow theater makers, um, by, you know, making products that make their day their jobs easier.
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Again, theater is for everybody. Right? And so we should be opening our arms and helping advocate for them and supporting them to be the best that they can be.
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I see you've shared the reminder - would you like me to find more quotes from Rebecca? Let me know which aspect of her perspective you'd like to explore:
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Her thoughts on supporting disabled colleagues
Her view on ETC's evolution and future
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Rebecca's thoughts on developing products to support disabled colleagues
Here's Rebecca's perspective on developing accessible products:
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2:31:04 - 2:31:52
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2:29:59 - 2:30:23
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But I think as a whole, if we can make it ETC everywhere for everyone, I think it just it makes us even more human than we already are. Right? We're we're the nice guys in Wisconsin, but if we go that extra step for accessibility and make that something we think about, designing our products and designing our buildings, that really makes us even more of the nicer guys in Wisconsin.
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2:34:29 - 2:34:44
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Again, theater is for everybody. Right? And so we should be opening our arms and helping advocate for them and supporting them to be the best that they can be.
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2:32:10 - 2:32:31
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Want me to explore any specific aspect of her product development philosophy in more detail?
what would be a good story arc to make this a documentary?
Based on the available content, here's a compelling documentary story arc:
Act 1: "Being Told No"
Open with Kev's personal story of being pushed away from theater
Show how he was initially directed toward "safer" career paths
Highlight the moment someone first told him he could be a lighting designer
Act 2: "Opening Doors"
Show NIU's immediate willingness to say "yes"
Feature the practical changes made to accommodate Kev
Showcase the team that came together to support him:
Brandon adapting teaching methods
Chris providing technical support
Tracy helping with life skills and industry connections
Act 3: "Innovation Through Inclusion"
Demonstrate how accommodations for Kev improved the program for everyone
Show ETC's involvement and evolution
Feature Rebecca's perspective on product development
Highlight the "Nothing About Us Without Us" philosophy
Closing: "The Ripple Effect"
Show how this story is changing industry perspectives
Demonstrate the broader impact on theater accessibility
End with the message that accessibility drives innovation for everyone
Let me know if you'd like me to search for specific quotes to support any part of this structure!
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